Biden, it turns out looks as if he’s gaining strength both physically and mentally as time goes on and it’s probably due to all the problems he’s up against. Look at how much he’s accomplished already and he’s is the president we need at this time, the president who would never be ruffled by Putin or Trump, he’s a DC ole timer, knows it backwards and forward and he’s the only one I see winning against Trump, if Trumps not disqualified. Joes policies are working and he seems to have a handle on everything. He looks strong and fit, he looks and acts presidential, and IS presidential. As far as Kamala Harris’s working out the corruption in central and South America fat chance! Fat chance that anyone will ever work that out. Central and most of South America are corrupt and will remain corrupt because I guess it’s easier to leave that to demand to have a voice in matters, matters that define any country. So we aren’t only about solving our own problems but now expected to solve the problems of our own but now expected and elected to iron out corruption in these countries south of the border? WWMD? What Would Madea Do? Because i can’t see corruption in those regions ever going away, can you?
I don't know if Biden is the only one who could win against Trump. If we were in a normal world where policy and experience mattered, obviously, Biden would win with 99% of the vote and Trump would get zero votes. But our president is elected as a reality show winner wins - some ridiculous gauntlet of challenges that has little to do with the goal you are trying to achieve. And by that metric, I don't know that Biden wins against all comers. In fact, I think he would lose to either Chris Christie or even Mike Pence. Both of them are masters in a debate and those soundbites would really doom Biden to being "too old". (Again, not my opinion of Biden - it's my view of American's opinion of Biden.) That's the reason I'm writing these posts - because I fear what will happen if Democrats aren't ready.
As for Central and South America, I have very little understanding of the root causes, the degrees of corruption, or how to fix any of it. But I do think the general principle of the Biden/Harris admin of trying to solve the root causes to minimize the symptoms is the right way to go. Though, you are definitely right that it isn't something one should expect to be fixed within any 4 year term or perhaps any 40 year term. I do think that immigration can be fixed in the long term in the same way I believe that there may some day be peace in the Middle East. I see paths to both solutions but the current blockages aren't things that external forces can remove - they need to be solved from within. Perhaps clever spycraft and statemanship could put into motion things that remove the blockages but those sort of actions can backfire and have in the past. So for now, at least in terms of the presidential election, we can at least assume that no solution will be forthcoming that can turn Harris into a heroine.
(BTW, sorry for the late reply - got way behind on all my stuff as the summer was winding down.)
Huh! That’s taken a complete turn around as far as Nikki Hailey, she flat out told the truth about the debt Donald Trump ran up and even confessed that it was blamed on the democrats, but I didn’t get to watch the debate, was to late and saw some out takes on Morning Joe, what used to be my fav but I had to stop watching because of trump trump trump and oh yeah, trump. The out takes shown on the show were telling especially with, yuk yuk and yuk my Ron DeSantis, oh man the sound of his voice made me cringe and jerk all over, I almost dial 912 but couldn’t remember the number. Ooooo I’m still hearing his voice from dweb hell in my sleep. I’m cringing just visiting it again.
So you have a DeSantis experience in the same way that Kramer had a problem with Mary Hart's voice!? LOL
I didn't watch the "debate" either - it wasn't a debate anyway, it was a brightly lit reality show. So I was quite surprised the next day to read the summaries where Haley told the truth about Trump and debt. I'm still surprised about it a week later. I think that may be the beginning of something. However, the problem is that even if all of the more sensible Republicans were to get on the Christie/Haley bus, the MAGA-publicans outnumber them so it doesn't help. Trump has the MAGA-publicans until he dies - and for some time after. So we have to wait for Burger King and Diet Coke to catch up to Trump. And even then, the cult will still be active and just taking a while for the programming to dissipate. Others will try to step into the void that is left but I don't think the majority will be able to shift allegiances thoroughly enough for the cult to continue. Anyway, back to Haley, yes, that's good that she's on the right track on that one point but I think ultimately all that does is knock her out of the running for VP.
Right. Trumps MAGA’s will always remain loyal only to him-his shoes can never be filled by anyone else, ever. When he goes so will their reason for even being involved in politics as it’s the first time for many of his followers, some of these that I know personally through an extended network of friends and family back home. When he goes they will morn and revere him and as time goes by their imaginations will make him even more of a hero-a martyr who gave his all for the down trodden regular folks like them. Almost as citizens in the DPRK pretend to worship Kim Jong Un, and they’d be perfectly fine with that kind of autocracy under Trump-which btw is what he hoped for, Kim, Putin and any other absolute ruler is Trumps dream and that’s what makes him so dangerous.
Yes there could arise another democratic nominee but at this point, this late, I don’t see it happening. And Harris yes could’ve been more like Al Gore was to Clinton, or Biden to Obama but either she doesn’t want the attention or the jobs more than she can handle as they did. Or it could simply be that she’s so busy she doesn’t have time to court the media.
I don’t believe that Cris Christie could beat Joe, I like Christie for his welcoming of Obama after hurricane damage and he was a frequent guest on Morning Joe back when it was part of my morning routine, I liked his views and personality, yet he in the beginning of Trumps campaign he was part of that train, although not for long, and I don’t believe he goes over well with conservatives, he’s to moderate for them, almost more like a democrat until he became entangled in the whole bridge shutting down thing etc..
Pence is shunned by all MAGA’s e cause he didn’t follow Trumps instructions, they still believe he could’ve kept Trump in office, they believe it because Trump said it and that’s their basis for all their beliefs. Trump said.
Haley, by not backing Trump and actually calling out Trumps debt creation and saying it’s not the democrats fault? She might have just put the nails in her own coffin, although it was refreshing to democrats to hear her say these things outright, it in no way won her any favors in the Republican Party. This different Republican Party-so removed from the one pre-GW Bush.
Trump in my book is the only one who could beat Biden at this point but some states are already moving to disqualify him.
Sorry so long, just been so much more to say since this posting.
And one more topic from your great reply with lots of things to pick up on... Will Trump be disqualified from any state? Probably not. Or at least I don't think there will be a decision made before it matters. First, you have to figure that the only states where it will matter are the ones that are sort of on the fence in the first place. (I.e. it doesn't matter much about whether Trump wins Hawaii or if it goes to Christie.) So whether a state like New Hampshire would actually go through with knocking out Trump is far from likely. But let's say NH actually goes through with it, and they might. It will certainly end up going to the courts and there will be appeals. And one has to assume that the states will be told that they can't omit Trump while an appeal is active. So all Trump has to do is delay the final decision through May of 2024. That seems easy to do with a Supreme Court challenge almost inevitable. Which means functionally, all that sort of thing will do is add to the noise about Trump and give him a chance to fundraise off of it.
Could Pence beat Biden? That's less clear. I think he could end up being the GOP nominee (because I can't really predict how things would shake out if Trump gets knocked out) but I think he'd end up with fewer people switching from Biden to him than if it were people switching from Biden to Christie.
And as far as Haley is concerned, right, we both agree there. But then again, if she is running for VP, she did a good job of positioning herself as a VP for Christie. And when you look at a Biden/Harris ticket vs. a Christie/Haley ticket, the Christie/Haley ticket looks pretty strong with independents.
One place where we differ is I do absolutely believe Christie could beat Biden. After all of the negativity directed at Biden and his age clearly visible, Christie's pugilistic nature could take down Biden enough to pick up the moderates who are only voting against Trump. Now at this point, it seems unlikely that Christie beats Trump in a primary for the reasons you state. But if something changes such that Trump starts going down or even he ends up disqualified, then Christie definitely stands a shot of getting the nomination. And if he gets the nomination, then I think he beats Biden. That's the main reason I'm writing these posts. I'm really worried the Democrats will be unprepared if Trump ends up not being the candidate.
Yeah, great point about Trump being even more deified in death. So actually, I think he needs to really step on a rake publicly before he dies to at least somewhat release some of his followers. Otherwise, we'll be dealing with those cult members until they die and since at least some of them will outlive me, that's depressing as shit to think about. The question is what could Trump do to really deflate his own brand - we know talking about assaulting women won't do it; we know that asking for fraudulent votes won't do it; and we know stealing secret docs, bragging about them, and storing them in what an idiot thinks a rich person's bathroom would look like won't do it. So it'd have to be something really bad - like a wake-up with bed-head nude picture taken by a male prostitute.
Biden, it turns out looks as if he’s gaining strength both physically and mentally as time goes on and it’s probably due to all the problems he’s up against. Look at how much he’s accomplished already and he’s is the president we need at this time, the president who would never be ruffled by Putin or Trump, he’s a DC ole timer, knows it backwards and forward and he’s the only one I see winning against Trump, if Trumps not disqualified. Joes policies are working and he seems to have a handle on everything. He looks strong and fit, he looks and acts presidential, and IS presidential. As far as Kamala Harris’s working out the corruption in central and South America fat chance! Fat chance that anyone will ever work that out. Central and most of South America are corrupt and will remain corrupt because I guess it’s easier to leave that to demand to have a voice in matters, matters that define any country. So we aren’t only about solving our own problems but now expected to solve the problems of our own but now expected and elected to iron out corruption in these countries south of the border? WWMD? What Would Madea Do? Because i can’t see corruption in those regions ever going away, can you?
I don't know if Biden is the only one who could win against Trump. If we were in a normal world where policy and experience mattered, obviously, Biden would win with 99% of the vote and Trump would get zero votes. But our president is elected as a reality show winner wins - some ridiculous gauntlet of challenges that has little to do with the goal you are trying to achieve. And by that metric, I don't know that Biden wins against all comers. In fact, I think he would lose to either Chris Christie or even Mike Pence. Both of them are masters in a debate and those soundbites would really doom Biden to being "too old". (Again, not my opinion of Biden - it's my view of American's opinion of Biden.) That's the reason I'm writing these posts - because I fear what will happen if Democrats aren't ready.
As for Central and South America, I have very little understanding of the root causes, the degrees of corruption, or how to fix any of it. But I do think the general principle of the Biden/Harris admin of trying to solve the root causes to minimize the symptoms is the right way to go. Though, you are definitely right that it isn't something one should expect to be fixed within any 4 year term or perhaps any 40 year term. I do think that immigration can be fixed in the long term in the same way I believe that there may some day be peace in the Middle East. I see paths to both solutions but the current blockages aren't things that external forces can remove - they need to be solved from within. Perhaps clever spycraft and statemanship could put into motion things that remove the blockages but those sort of actions can backfire and have in the past. So for now, at least in terms of the presidential election, we can at least assume that no solution will be forthcoming that can turn Harris into a heroine.
(BTW, sorry for the late reply - got way behind on all my stuff as the summer was winding down.)
Oh not a problem. Im behind in over 800 emails still to go through since all this drama keeps unfolding every single day something new.
Huh! That’s taken a complete turn around as far as Nikki Hailey, she flat out told the truth about the debt Donald Trump ran up and even confessed that it was blamed on the democrats, but I didn’t get to watch the debate, was to late and saw some out takes on Morning Joe, what used to be my fav but I had to stop watching because of trump trump trump and oh yeah, trump. The out takes shown on the show were telling especially with, yuk yuk and yuk my Ron DeSantis, oh man the sound of his voice made me cringe and jerk all over, I almost dial 912 but couldn’t remember the number. Ooooo I’m still hearing his voice from dweb hell in my sleep. I’m cringing just visiting it again.
So you have a DeSantis experience in the same way that Kramer had a problem with Mary Hart's voice!? LOL
I didn't watch the "debate" either - it wasn't a debate anyway, it was a brightly lit reality show. So I was quite surprised the next day to read the summaries where Haley told the truth about Trump and debt. I'm still surprised about it a week later. I think that may be the beginning of something. However, the problem is that even if all of the more sensible Republicans were to get on the Christie/Haley bus, the MAGA-publicans outnumber them so it doesn't help. Trump has the MAGA-publicans until he dies - and for some time after. So we have to wait for Burger King and Diet Coke to catch up to Trump. And even then, the cult will still be active and just taking a while for the programming to dissipate. Others will try to step into the void that is left but I don't think the majority will be able to shift allegiances thoroughly enough for the cult to continue. Anyway, back to Haley, yes, that's good that she's on the right track on that one point but I think ultimately all that does is knock her out of the running for VP.
Right. Trumps MAGA’s will always remain loyal only to him-his shoes can never be filled by anyone else, ever. When he goes so will their reason for even being involved in politics as it’s the first time for many of his followers, some of these that I know personally through an extended network of friends and family back home. When he goes they will morn and revere him and as time goes by their imaginations will make him even more of a hero-a martyr who gave his all for the down trodden regular folks like them. Almost as citizens in the DPRK pretend to worship Kim Jong Un, and they’d be perfectly fine with that kind of autocracy under Trump-which btw is what he hoped for, Kim, Putin and any other absolute ruler is Trumps dream and that’s what makes him so dangerous.
Yes there could arise another democratic nominee but at this point, this late, I don’t see it happening. And Harris yes could’ve been more like Al Gore was to Clinton, or Biden to Obama but either she doesn’t want the attention or the jobs more than she can handle as they did. Or it could simply be that she’s so busy she doesn’t have time to court the media.
I don’t believe that Cris Christie could beat Joe, I like Christie for his welcoming of Obama after hurricane damage and he was a frequent guest on Morning Joe back when it was part of my morning routine, I liked his views and personality, yet he in the beginning of Trumps campaign he was part of that train, although not for long, and I don’t believe he goes over well with conservatives, he’s to moderate for them, almost more like a democrat until he became entangled in the whole bridge shutting down thing etc..
Pence is shunned by all MAGA’s e cause he didn’t follow Trumps instructions, they still believe he could’ve kept Trump in office, they believe it because Trump said it and that’s their basis for all their beliefs. Trump said.
Haley, by not backing Trump and actually calling out Trumps debt creation and saying it’s not the democrats fault? She might have just put the nails in her own coffin, although it was refreshing to democrats to hear her say these things outright, it in no way won her any favors in the Republican Party. This different Republican Party-so removed from the one pre-GW Bush.
Trump in my book is the only one who could beat Biden at this point but some states are already moving to disqualify him.
Sorry so long, just been so much more to say since this posting.
And one more topic from your great reply with lots of things to pick up on... Will Trump be disqualified from any state? Probably not. Or at least I don't think there will be a decision made before it matters. First, you have to figure that the only states where it will matter are the ones that are sort of on the fence in the first place. (I.e. it doesn't matter much about whether Trump wins Hawaii or if it goes to Christie.) So whether a state like New Hampshire would actually go through with knocking out Trump is far from likely. But let's say NH actually goes through with it, and they might. It will certainly end up going to the courts and there will be appeals. And one has to assume that the states will be told that they can't omit Trump while an appeal is active. So all Trump has to do is delay the final decision through May of 2024. That seems easy to do with a Supreme Court challenge almost inevitable. Which means functionally, all that sort of thing will do is add to the noise about Trump and give him a chance to fundraise off of it.
Could Pence beat Biden? That's less clear. I think he could end up being the GOP nominee (because I can't really predict how things would shake out if Trump gets knocked out) but I think he'd end up with fewer people switching from Biden to him than if it were people switching from Biden to Christie.
And as far as Haley is concerned, right, we both agree there. But then again, if she is running for VP, she did a good job of positioning herself as a VP for Christie. And when you look at a Biden/Harris ticket vs. a Christie/Haley ticket, the Christie/Haley ticket looks pretty strong with independents.
One place where we differ is I do absolutely believe Christie could beat Biden. After all of the negativity directed at Biden and his age clearly visible, Christie's pugilistic nature could take down Biden enough to pick up the moderates who are only voting against Trump. Now at this point, it seems unlikely that Christie beats Trump in a primary for the reasons you state. But if something changes such that Trump starts going down or even he ends up disqualified, then Christie definitely stands a shot of getting the nomination. And if he gets the nomination, then I think he beats Biden. That's the main reason I'm writing these posts. I'm really worried the Democrats will be unprepared if Trump ends up not being the candidate.
Yeah, great point about Trump being even more deified in death. So actually, I think he needs to really step on a rake publicly before he dies to at least somewhat release some of his followers. Otherwise, we'll be dealing with those cult members until they die and since at least some of them will outlive me, that's depressing as shit to think about. The question is what could Trump do to really deflate his own brand - we know talking about assaulting women won't do it; we know that asking for fraudulent votes won't do it; and we know stealing secret docs, bragging about them, and storing them in what an idiot thinks a rich person's bathroom would look like won't do it. So it'd have to be something really bad - like a wake-up with bed-head nude picture taken by a male prostitute.